Western Ground Rents Ltd
Forensic assessment · v1.1.0 · updated 1 November 2026
Translation pending: the assessment text below is in English, the authoritative record.
- Response status
- Enquiries go to other bodies (company records)
- Last contact
- 31 October 2026
- Next date on file
- 12 November 2026 (Ground Rents Ltd (00342092) and related LT 13 records; reply asked by 12 Nov 2026.)
- Earlier version
- v1.0.0, published 21 October 2026 on the Legal Wiki
Since last assessment
14 October 2026 to 1 November 2026
Our reading: Since 14 October 2026, 17 emails are on file: 14 sent, 3 received (1 with content, 2 automatic acknowledgements). The response status is unchanged: “Enquiries go to other bodies (company records)”. Most material: 30 October 2026, received, fee or clarification demand (ref COH2382411X): [Companies House] Reply repeats the standard guidance: free online filing history for company 09760885 (Western Ground Rents Limited, the current company of that name), £3 per document from paper records, £9 per document for accounts or annual returns filed before 1973, £20 for an archive DVD of filings to 2002, card payment by telephone only. It does not answer the questions on the 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance, Mountjoy Ltd formation records, the 25 Dec 1938 conveyance or preservation. Next date on file: 12 November 2026. Nothing here changes the earlier current finding unless stated above; this is a log of contact, not a finding about any person.
- Sentrequest
[Government Legal Department (Bona Vacantia)] The requester asks whether bona vacantia records show any property or interest of a dissolved company vested in or referred to the Crown at Llandough.
- Sentclarification given
[Government Legal Department (Bona Vacantia)] The requester follows up.
- Sentclarification given
[Government Legal Department (Bona Vacantia)] Further search terms for FOIR26#25631/1 (Western Ground Rents Ltd, 00342092).
- Sentcorrespondence (no disclosure)ref COH2382411X
[Companies House] Follow-up asks whether three records are held: a 1926 conveyance to Cardiff Corporation, the formation and company records of Mountjoy Ltd, and a conveyance on sale of 25 December 1938 to Western Ground Rents Ltd. Asks Companies House to confirm the correct company numbers (09760885 and 00342092 both quoted in earlier correspondence), name the custodian and series of each record, state the searches made, and preserve the records while the enquiry is open.
- Sentfollow-upref GHF/HENEB/2026-09-20
[Heneb (formerly GGAT) / Historic Environment Record] Follow-up asking whether the HER holds or can point to three title records: the 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance, Mountjoy Ltd records and the 25 Dec 1938 Western Ground Rents Ltd conveyance.
- Sentcorrespondence (no disclosure)ref 9816877
[National Library of Wales] Follow-up to enquiry 9816877 asks whether the Library holds or has held the 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance, Mountjoy Ltd formation records and the 25 December 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents Ltd (originals, copies, plans or references), which catalogues were checked (including GB 0210 BUTE, D153 and D219), and asks for the records to be preserved.
- Sentrequest
[Forest of Cardiff (registered charity)] Asks the charity to check its acquisition and title records (including the 1994 acquisition file) for the 1926 conveyance to Cardiff Corporation and plan, the 1926 Mountjoy Ltd formation records and the 25 Dec 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents Ltd and plan, and to name any present custodian.
- Sentpreservation notice
[Capital Law] Preservation notice asking that any Mountjoy Ltd, Cardiff Corporation and Western Ground Rents Ltd files be kept and their custody confirmed, after the Glamorgan Archives catalogue listed Western Ground Rents papers as collection D696.
- Receivedfee or clarification demandref COH2382411X
[Companies House] Reply repeats the standard guidance: free online filing history for company 09760885 (Western Ground Rents Limited, the current company of that name), £3 per document from paper records, £9 per document for accounts or annual returns filed before 1973, £20 for an archive DVD of filings to 2002, card payment by telephone only. It does not answer the questions on the 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance, Mountjoy Ltd formation records, the 25 Dec 1938 conveyance or preservation.
- Sentclarification givenref FOIR26#25631/1
[Government Legal Department (Bona Vacantia)] FOIR26#25631/1: asks for Mountjoy Limited and the title records to be added within the same search, and treated as a preservation notice.
- Sentfollow-up
[BP] Replies to BP's 23 Oct 2026 email: asks BP to identify and preserve title deeds and Western Ground Rents records; not a disclosure request.
- Sentrequest
[The National Archives] New records enquiry, separate from CAS-356384: Mountjoy Limited, Western Ground Rents Ltd (00342092) and related LT 13 records; reply asked by 12 Nov 2026.
- Sentrequest
[Glamorgan Archives] Asks for a search for Mountjoy Ltd, the 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance and the 25 Dec 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents, building on refs 2026/3793, 2026/4097b and 2026/4461.
- Sentfollow-upref COH2382411X
[Companies House] Follow-up to the 12 Oct 2026 reply (COH2382411X): two corrections and a new request for Mountjoy Limited and Western Ground Rents Limited (00342092) company records; reply asked by 12 Nov 2026.
- Sentpreservation notice
[Mount Stuart (Bute archive)] Preservation and records request for Mountjoy Ltd, the 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance and the 25 Dec 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents; notes the 23 Aug 2026 enquiry bounced from the old archive address.
2 automatic acknowledgements
[Government Legal Department (Bona Vacantia)] The records team acknowledges receipt of the request and states a response will follow within 20 working days.
[Government Legal Department (Bona Vacantia)] The Treasury Solicitor team gives the request the reference FOIR26#25631/1.
The assessment as last published
Carried over unchanged from v1.0.0 (21 October 2026). Links point inside this site.
Assessed 14 October 2026. Scope: Western Ground Rents Ltd (WGR) as landlord and litigant in the Great House Farm chain. WGR is a historic company; this page assesses documented acts only. Inclusion is not a finding of fault.
Role
WGR took the Bute Estate reversion on the 1916 tenancy in 1938, was landlord in the 1939–1965 tenancy and possession sequence, and sold its interest to BP Pension Trust on 31 December 1969 (our case: Parcel B, plus an interest in the 1962 order on Parcel A, not the land as a whole). The main narrative is on the Western Ground Rents Ltd actor page; this review does not repeat it.
Documented appearances
| Date | Appearance | Source |
|---|---|---|
| 1938 | Takes Bute’s reversion (conveyance and plan held by the family). | GHF-E121 |
| 1939 | Revised tenancy to John Williams; the plan depicts Parcel B only. | DBDT123/7 |
| 1955 | High Court possession order worded for the “whole farm”; execution on 4 July. | GHF-E125, GHF-E126 |
| 1959 and 1965 | Tenancy offers for the remaining house and garden. | GHF-E128 |
| 1962 | Cardiff County Court possession order, 11 December; not enforced against the house. | GHF-E130 |
| 1969 | Conveyance to BP Pension Trust; the deed is not on the Land Registry first-registration schedule. | GHF-E131 |
Current finding
As at 14 October 2026, the material reviewed does not establish dishonesty or misconduct by WGR. The contention is that WGR’s “whole farm” wording was extended over Parcel A land; that is a contention to be tested against the order, assertion, plans and execution record, not a finding. The company is a historic entity and no individual officer has been identified from the records.
Forensic control test and next step
Identify who instructed the 1955 and 1962 proceedings, what plan accompanied each, and what WGR’s own files recorded. Seek the Companies House file (see the Companies House review) and the WGR rental books lead at D696. Acceptance: the 1955 and 1962 instructions and plans are located, or a documented search result states they do not survive.
Related
Institutional Involvement Roadmap · BP Properties and BP Pension Trust · Forensic Assessments index
Created 14 October 2026. Prepared with AI assistance from the wiki’s existing records, on the family’s instruction. Corrections are welcome and will be dated here.
For the wider Cedwyn Estate working hypothesis, see Cedwyn Estate Working Theory. This page is not, by itself, proof of that hypothesis.
Change history is maintained on the Master Change Log; no separate page-local version footer is maintained.
Case file
This file is built for a future reparations claim. Facts are as the records show them; interpretation is labelled “our reading”. Items marked “not checked” have not been compared with the original record.
(a) Conduct timeline
17 dated interactions, oldest first; 2 automatic acknowledgements are left out. Quotations are verbatim from the institution’s email; where the reply’s substance was an attachment, the email subject is quoted instead.
Show the timeline
| Date | Direction | Reference | Type | Verbatim |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 June 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: Great House Farm - Williams/ Buckler |
| 12 October 2026 | received | COH2382411X | redirected elsewhere | Please find the following links for the dissolved companies |
| 20 October 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: FOI request — Western Ground Rents Ltd (company no. 00342092, dissolved 1997): any bona vacantia property or interests at Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan |
| 21 October 2026 | sent | — | clarification given | Subject: RE: FOI request — Western Ground Rents Ltd (company no. 00342092, dissolved 1997): any bona vacantia property or interests at Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | — | clarification given | Subject: RE: FOI request — Western Ground Rents Ltd (company no. 00342092, dissolved 1997): any bona vacantia property or interests at Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | COH2382411X | correspondence (no disclosure) | Subject: RE: Your Communication with Companies House, Ref: COH2382411X |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | GHF/HENEB/2026-09-20 | follow-up | Subject: Great House Farm, Llandough, Cardiff |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | 9816877 | correspondence (no disclosure) | Subject: Enquiry 9816877 – Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr (Cedfin), Llandough-juxta-Penarth: Bute Estate records and related items (several items) |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: Re[4]: Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr, Llandough — Registered Title WA735527 |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | — | preservation notice | Subject: Urgent: preservation and custody of Mountjoy, Cardiff Corporation and Western Ground Rents records |
| 30 October 2026 | received | COH2382411X | fee or clarification demand | Alternatively, any document can be accessed from the Companies House records. |
| 31 October 2026 | sent | FOIR26#25631/1 | clarification given | Subject: RE: FOI request: Western Ground Rents Ltd (00342092) [FOIR26#25631/1]: addition of Mountjoy Limited and title documents |
| 31 October 2026 | sent | — | follow-up | Subject: RE: Document preservation notice: Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr: title deeds and Western Ground Rents records (three specific documents) |
| 31 October 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: New records enquiry (separate from CAS-356384): Mountjoy Limited, Western Ground Rents Ltd (00342092), LT 13/3048, BP Properties v Buckler bundles |
| 31 October 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: URGENT: Mountjoy Ltd, 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance, 25 Dec 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents: search, custody and preservation (follow-up to 2026/3 |
| 31 October 2026 | sent | COH2382411X | follow-up | Subject: URGENT: Mountjoy Limited and Western Ground Rents Limited (00342092): company records and preservation (follow-up to COH2382411X) |
| 31 October 2026 | sent | — | preservation notice | Subject: URGENT preservation and records request: Mountjoy Ltd, 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance, 25 December 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents (Llandough) |
(b) Inconsistencies and gaps
None found in the correspondence on file.
(c) Quarantined-name links
Records on the quarantine register (Kissed Frogs) that sit in, or came from, this institution’s holdings. None is treated as settled.
- KF-21 · Western Mail 4 Feb 1947 p.3; Pontypridd Observer 8 Feb, 8 Mar 1947 — quarantined: may be a mislabelled Great House Farm (Llandough/Leckwith) record until a physical check.
(d) Duty and liability — our reading
Liability indicators (our reading): none
- Duty
- No general statutory duty to disclose; UK GDPR Art. 15 for personal data it holds; duties in contract, conveyancing practice or professional rules where it was a party, agent or adviser; once on notice of a possible claim, an expectation to preserve relevant documents.
- Indicators the duty was not met
- none found in the correspondence on file.
- Evidence still needed to confirm
- the institution’s retention schedule and disposal record for the series in question; the catalogue or file list it searched; the original items on the quarantine register; any internal review or complaint outcome.
- Likely extent of exposure if confirmed
- Depends on its role in a transaction: where it was a party or adviser to a dealing in the land, exposure follows that role; otherwise none beyond data-protection duties.
(e) Evidence still needed
- View any deposited papers (company or estate records) at the archive that holds them. for paid visit list
- View the original of KF-21 (Western Mail 4 Feb 1947 p.3; Pontypridd Observer 8 Feb, 8 Mar 1947) and check the place, parties and plan against Great House Farm, Llandough/Leckwith. for paid visit list
Versions
| 1.1.0 | 2026-11-01 | Moved to the Forensic Assessments webapp; dated “Since last assessment” section added; response status re-read. |
| 1.0.0 | 2026-10-21 | As published on the Legal Wiki. |