RCAHMW
Forensic assessment · v1.1.0 · updated 1 November 2026
Translation pending: the assessment text below is in English, the authoritative record.
- Response status
- Asked for clarification or fee → Disclosing
- Last contact
- 29 October 2026
- Next date on file
- None on file
- Earlier version
- v1.0.0, published 18 October 2026 on the Legal Wiki
Since last assessment
18 October 2026 to 1 November 2026
Our reading: Since 18 October 2026, 6 emails are on file: 4 sent, 2 received (1 with content, 1 automatic acknowledgements). The latest reply moves the response status from “Asked for clarification or fee” to “Disclosing”. Most material: 26 October 2026, received, partial (ref RC26-0375): Sends the order form; (a) not held; (b) the two Great House Farm plans (archive nos 6048943 and 6048941, the second with additions dated 12/12/1988) hold nothing beyond the catalogue entries, no related correspondence or photography; (c) a list of relevant air-photo sorties needs a charged search. Nothing here changes the earlier current finding unless stated above; this is a log of contact, not a finding about any person.
- Sentclarification givenref RC26-0353, RC26-0368, RC26-0371, RC26-0375
The requester follows up on RC26-0375.
- Receivedpartialref RC26-0375
Sends the order form; (a) not held; (b) the two Great House Farm plans (archive nos 6048943 and 6048941, the second with additions dated 12/12/1988) hold nothing beyond the catalogue entries, no related correspondence or photography; (c) a list of relevant air-photo sorties needs a charged search.
- Sentclarification givenref RC26-0353, RC26-0368, RC26-0371, RC26-0375
Reply to the 6 Oct response under RC26-0375 with further search terms and remaining points.
- Sentclarification givenref RC26-0353, RC26-0368, RC26-0371, RC26-0375
Short addition on RC26-0375 resending the farm's historical names, which had not reached the Commission in an earlier mailing.
- Sentfollow-upref RC26-0353, RC26-0368, RC26-0371, RC26-0375
Follow-up on RC26-0375 asking about three title records of 1926 and 1938, three remaining points from the 6 Oct reply, and how to order scans.
1 automatic acknowledgement
- RC26-0375
Automatic acknowledgement from NMR Enquiries of the 29 Oct 2026 further response on RC26-0375 (covering RC26-0353, -0368, -0371).
The assessment as last published
Carried over unchanged from v1.0.0 (18 October 2026). Links point inside this site.
Chronology and catalogue links — assessed 10-10-2026: Use the Institutional Involvement Roadmap (1877–2026) for the date-ordered institution/people/evidence sequence. The reported 1988 Cadw-to-Minister spot-listing letter has its own catalogue placeholder at GHF-E152; the original has not been attached to that page as at 10-10-2026. A placeholder records an evidence gap; it does not establish the letter’s contents or misconduct.
Forensic Assessment — RCAHMW
Scope: Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales as the principal architectural/heritage record custodian.
Established role
RCAHMW holds the H. J. Thomas survey material for Great House Farm, including a 1974 architectural survey/floor plan documenting a sub-medieval/late-seventeenth-century building, and related photographic/record evidence.
Forensic control test
Determine what RCAHMW held by 1988, what was made available to Cadw, whether the demolition was notified, and what further photographic or survey records survive. A statement that an item exists today does not by itself prove who saw it in 1988.
Current finding
As at 10-10-2026, the material reviewed does not establish wrongdoing by RCAHMW. This is not a finding that RCAHMW had no involvement; the page addresses the particular custody and heritage-record questions identified. The key issue is whether surviving survey material can prove what heritage information was available to decision-makers before demolition.
Human action
Order the identified free scans, capture metadata and establish the 1988 availability/communication trail. Compare the 1974 survey against Cadw’s 1988 assessment.
Acceptance: survey, plan, photos and 1988 availability evidence are catalogued and linked to the Cadw control point.
Institutional appearance timeline — linked source index
Coverage rule: this is a chronological navigation map of published Wiki source pages found by searching the current site index for “RCAHMW”. Every event label links directly to the page containing the source. It avoids duplicating source narratives. It records mention/appearance, not culpability. Dates are transcribed from page titles where available; “Date not explicit in title” means the linked source must be consulted. Search indexing is a discovery aid, not proof of exhaustive external coverage. 🕒10-10-2026
| Date shown by source title | Event / source — open evidence | Record class |
|---|---|---|
| 16 April 1974 | GHF-E090-N03 — “‘Open day’ to save ancient Welsh house” (Daily Telegraph, 16 April 1974) | Published Wiki evidence page |
| 16 April 1974 | GHF-E090-N03 — 16 April 1974: “‘Open day’ to save ancient Welsh house” (Daily Telegraph) | Published Wiki evidence page |
| 1974 | GHF-E137 — 1974 H. J. Thomas architectural survey and floor plan (RCAHMW / National Monuments Record) | Published Wiki evidence page |
| 29 July 1988 | GHF-E144 — 29 July 1988 Cadw inspection photographs and the 5 December 1988 listing decision record | Published Wiki evidence page |
| 29 September 2026 | GHF-E106-R01 — Royal Commission (RCAHMW) reply RC26-0375, 29 September 2026 | Records-access response |
| Date not explicit in title | Press Archive — Newspaper Transcripts | Published Wiki evidence page |
Records-access register appearances — direct row links
Rows below match the institution’s name or an alias in the reply register. A match establishes an appearance in the records trail, not necessarily a substantive act by the institution.
| Date | Correspondence / register item (click to open) | Reading rule |
|---|---|---|
| 28 May and 10 Jun 2026 | R40 — Royal Commission (RCAHMW). RC26-0205 . | Name/alias match in the reply register; open the row to distinguish sender, recipient and incidental reference. |
| 8, 16, 17 and 21 Sep 2026 | R22 — Royal Commission (RCAHMW) NMR enquiries. | Name/alias match in the reply register; open the row to distinguish sender, recipient and incidental reference. |
| 29 Sep 2026 | R01 — Royal Commission (RCAHMW), National Monuments Record enquiries. RC26-0375 (covering RC26-0353, -0368, -0371). Reply in Welsh. | Name/alias match in the reply register; open the row to distinguish sender, recipient and incidental reference. |
| 6 Oct 2026 | R43 — Royal Commission (RCAHMW), further response under RC26-0375 | Name/alias match in the reply register; open the row to distinguish sender, recipient and incidental reference. |
Related navigation: FOI & Public-Authority Reply Register · Records Access Chronology · Evidence Library
Page version & change log
Current version: 1.0.0
| Version | Date (UTC) | Editor (human or agent name) | Change | Source / evidence |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1.0.0 | 2026-10-18T15:28Z | the editors | Footer standardised; no content change | Editing Protocol, 18 Oct 2026 |
Agents and editors: follow the Editing Protocol.
Case file
This file is built for a future reparations claim. Facts are as the records show them; interpretation is labelled “our reading”. Items marked “not checked” have not been compared with the original record.
(a) Conduct timeline
28 dated interactions, oldest first; 11 automatic acknowledgements are left out. Quotations are verbatim from the institution’s email; where the reply’s substance was an attachment, the email subject is quoted instead.
Show the timeline
| Date | Direction | Reference | Type | Verbatim |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 November 2025 | received | RC25-0464 | substantive disclosure | In addition to the information and records which we hold, there are several related records in the Historic Environment Record maintained by Heneb, which related to excavations, mostly concerning the cemetery/burial site: |
| 26 November 2025 | sent | — | other | Subject: Re: RC25-0464 - Information related to Great House Farm, Llandough |
| 28 May 2026 | received | RC26-0205 | partial | Subject: RC26-0205 - Great House Farm, Williams/ Buckler Family, Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan |
| 29 May 2026 | sent | — | complaint | Subject: Re: RC26-0205 - Great House Farm, Williams/ Buckler Family, Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan |
| 5 June 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: Re: RC26-0205 - Great House Farm, Williams/ Buckler Family, Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan |
| 8 June 2026 | received | RC26-0205 | substantive disclosure | Fuller information about the archives can be seen by clicking on the red ‘Archive Number’ for each entry in the list, which will take you to the specific entry for it on our catalogue. |
| 9 June 2026 | sent | RC26-0205 | request | Subject: Re: RC26-0205 - Great House Farm, Williams/ Buckler Family, Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan - Details of Archives |
| 10 June 2026 | received | RC26-0205 | substantive disclosure | If you would like further details about the content of these records, they can be viewed in our Search Room, located in the National Library of Wales, which is open Tuesday through Thursday. |
| 10 June 2026 | sent | RC26-0205 | request | Subject: Re: RC26-0205 - Great House Farm, Williams/ Buckler Family, Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan - Further Details of Archives |
| 10 June 2026 | sent | — | other | Subject: Re: RC26-0205 - Great House Farm, Williams/ Buckler Family, Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan - Further Details of Archives |
| 2 August 2026 | sent | — | other | Subject: FAO: Dr Driver: Aerial Discoveries & a Buried History |
| 8 September 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: Great House Farm, Llandough, Cardiff |
| 8 September 2026 | sent | — | other | Subject: Re: Great House Farm, Llandough, Cardiff |
| 15 September 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: Catalogue check – ERC RCS2/1/1777 “Great House (Ty Mawr), Bonvilston” |
| 17 September 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: Great House Farm, Llandough |
| 20 September 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: Ty Mawr/ Great House, Llandough, Cardiff |
| 29 September 2026 | received | RC26-0375 (including RC26-0353, -0368, -0371) | partial | Subject: RC26-0375 (gan gynnwys RC26-0353, -0368, a -0371) - Ty Mawr/ Great House, Llandough, Cardiff |
| 30 September 2026 | sent | RC26-0375 | clarification given | Subject: Re: RC26-0375 (gan gynnwys RC26-0353, -0368, a -0371) - Ty Mawr/ Great House, Llandough, Cardiff |
| 6 October 2026 | received | RC26-0375 | partial | In particular, please note that our searches have been extensive, including searches of any possibly relevant registered files, the only administrative and operational records and materials held in the long term, and the NMRW archive, including both term-based and spatial searches in the archive… |
| 10 October 2026 | sent | RC26-0375 | chase | Subject: RC26-0375 – thank you and three remaining points |
| 10 October 2026 | sent | RC26-0375 | request | Subject: RC26-0375 — order for scans: Archives 6048945, 6048943 and 6048941 |
| 10 October 2026 | sent | RC26-0375 | other | Subject: Re: RC26-0375 (gan gynnwys RC26-0353, -0368, a -0371) - Ty Mawr/ Great House, Llandough, Cardiff - Further response |
| 13 October 2026 | received | RC26-0375 | fee or clarification demand | While I cannot confirm a quote for this order before receiving a completed order form, an order of these three items would likely require four research-quality scans. |
| 21 October 2026 | sent | RC26-0353, RC26-0368, RC26-0371, RC26-0375 | clarification given | Subject: Re: RC26-0375 – thank you and three remaining points & Order for scans |
| 26 October 2026 | received | RC26-0375 | partial | With regard to point 2, and taking as starting point, as you note, that no further information is held beyond the archive catalogue: |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | RC26-0353, RC26-0368, RC26-0371, RC26-0375 | clarification given | Subject: RC26-0375 (gan gynnwys RC26-0353, -0368, a -0371) - Ty Mawr/ Great House, Llandough, Cardiff - Further response |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | RC26-0353, RC26-0368, RC26-0371, RC26-0375 | clarification given | Subject: RE: RC26-0375 (gan gynnwys RC26-0353, -0368, a -0371) - Ty Mawr/ Great House, Llandough, Cardiff - Further response |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | RC26-0353, RC26-0368, RC26-0371, RC26-0375 | follow-up | Subject: Re: RC26-0375 – thank you and three remaining points & Order for scans |
(b) Inconsistencies and gaps
Contradictions between replies, or between institutions
- 26 November 2025: Redirected on 26 November 2025 to Heneb Historic Environment Record; that body answered “not held” on 29 October 2026 (its page). Each points elsewhere; the record is not located.
- 10 June 2026: Redirected on 10 June 2026 to National Library of Wales Search Room; that body answered “not held” on 29 October 2026 (its page). Each points elsewhere; the record is not located.
(c) Quarantined-name links
Records on the quarantine register (Kissed Frogs) that sit in, or came from, this institution’s holdings. None is treated as settled.
No quarantined-name record on the register is linked to this institution’s holdings.
(d) Duty and liability — our reading
Liability indicators (our reading): some
- Duty
- Custody and cataloguing of deposited records (Public Records Act 1958 for public records and places of deposit; the deposit terms for private collections); FOIA 2000 / EIR 2004 for information about holdings; an accurate catalogue is the finding aid the public relies on.
- Indicators the duty was not met
- redirections that end in “not held”.
- Evidence still needed to confirm
- the institution’s retention schedule and disposal record for the series in question; the catalogue or file list it searched; any internal review or complaint outcome.
- Likely extent of exposure if confirmed
- Limited to the custodial record unless a mis-catalogued or withheld item is shown to have kept evidence from a decision-maker; then it may extend to the cost of putting the record right.
(e) Evidence still needed
- View the original items and the accession / deposit file at the search room. for paid visit list
Versions
| 1.1.0 | 2026-11-01 | Moved to the Forensic Assessments webapp; dated “Since last assessment” section added; response status re-read. |
| 1.0.0 | 2026-10-18 | As published on the Legal Wiki. |