Bute Estate
Forensic assessment · v1.1.0 · updated 1 November 2026
Translation pending: the assessment text below is in English, the authoritative record.
- Response status
- No contact on file → Awaiting first reply
- Last contact
- 31 October 2026
- Next date on file
- 6 November 2026 (870s and 1938 Llandough-juxta-Penarth records and asks for a reply by 6 November 2026.)
- Earlier version
- v1.0.0, published 21 October 2026 on the Legal Wiki
Since last assessment
14 October 2026 to 1 November 2026
Our reading: Since 14 October 2026, 5 emails are on file: 4 sent, 1 received (0 with content, 1 automatic acknowledgements). The latest reply moves the response status from “No contact on file” to “Awaiting first reply”. Most material: 31 October 2026, sent, preservation notice: Preservation and records request for Mountjoy Ltd, the 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance and the 25 Dec 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents; notes the 23 Aug 2026 enquiry bounced from the old archive address. Next date on file: 6 November 2026. Nothing here changes the earlier current finding unless stated above; this is a log of contact, not a finding about any person.
- Sentrequest
The requester asks for a research visit, registration documents, and specified Bute Estate records on Llandough-juxta-Penarth, 1667 and 1875–1880.
- Sentclarification given
The requester narrows the earlier request to specific 1870s and 1938 Llandough-juxta-Penarth records and asks for a reply by 6 November 2026.
- Sentfollow-up
Follow-up to the 23 Aug enquiry and 15 Oct research-visit request asking whether the Bute estate papers hold the three title records of 1926 and 1938.
- Sentpreservation notice
Preservation and records request for Mountjoy Ltd, the 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance and the 25 Dec 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents; notes the 23 Aug 2026 enquiry bounced from the old archive address.
1 automatic acknowledgement
An automatic reply states general enquiries are paused until January 2027 but research visits and reproductions remain available.
The assessment as last published
Carried over unchanged from v1.0.0 (21 October 2026). Links point inside this site.
Assessed 14 October 2026. Scope: the Bute Estate of the Marquesses of Bute, historic landowner and landlord. Its papers are held at Glamorgan Archives and the National Library of Wales. Inclusion is not a finding of fault. Substantive history is on The Bute Estate.
Documented appearances
| Date | Appearance | Source |
|---|---|---|
| 1552–1824 (Bute catalogue range; not a Tŷ Mawr date) | Bute records name the farm Cedfin, Cydfin, Ken fin Farm or Ty Mawr Farm (a research lead; name similarity is not proof of identity). | GHF-E179 |
| 1877 | Bute–Thomas agreement (original unlocated); reported 6 November 1877 John Williams lease, matching Llandough instrument not identified (SC-20). | GHF-E115, GHF-E116 |
| 1916 | Yearly agricultural tenancy to John Williams, with plan. | GHF-E118 |
| 1924 | Bute–Corbett drain agreement and plan (on the WA231076 file). | GHF-E119 |
| 1938 | Reversion on the 1916 tenancy conveyed to Western Ground Rents Ltd. | GHF-E121 |
Current finding
As at 14 October 2026, the material reviewed does not establish wrongdoing by the Bute Estate. The wiki records the family evidence that the house parcel was conveyed to Daniel Thomas in 1877, so it does not treat Bute as holding an unbroken title to both parcels through 1938. How the estate acquired the freehold in the early nineteenth century is unresolved.
Forensic control test and next step
Examine the individual National Library of Wales D 219 deeds and plans and the Glamorgan Archives Bute catalogue items before any parcel conclusion is drawn. See also the Glamorgan Archives and National Library of Wales reviews. Acceptance: the 1877 and 1938 instruments and plans are read against each other and the result recorded.
Related
The 1877 Agreement · Western Ground Rents review · Institutional Involvement Roadmap
Created 14 October 2026. Prepared with AI assistance from the wiki’s existing records, on the family’s instruction. Corrections are welcome and will be dated here.
For the wider Cedwyn Estate working hypothesis, see Cedwyn Estate Working Theory. This page is not, by itself, proof of that hypothesis.
Change history is maintained on the Master Change Log; no separate page-local version footer is maintained.
Case file
This file is built for a future reparations claim. Facts are as the records show them; interpretation is labelled “our reading”. Items marked “not checked” have not been compared with the original record.
(a) Conduct timeline
4 dated interactions, oldest first; 1 automatic acknowledgements are left out. Quotations are verbatim from the institution’s email; where the reply’s substance was an attachment, the email subject is quoted instead.
Show the timeline
| Date | Direction | Reference | Type | Verbatim |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 October 2026 | sent | — | request | Subject: Research visit request — Bute Estate (Glamorgan) records, 1667 and 1875–1880 — Llandough-juxta-Penarth |
| 19 October 2026 | sent | — | clarification given | Subject: Follow-up to research visit request of 15 October — Bute Estate (Glamorgan), Llandough-juxta-Penarth |
| 29 October 2026 | sent | — | follow-up | Subject: Follow-up to research visit request of 15 October — Bute Estate (Glamorgan), Llandough-juxta-Penarth |
| 31 October 2026 | sent | — | preservation notice | Subject: URGENT preservation and records request: Mountjoy Ltd, 1926 Cardiff Corporation conveyance, 25 December 1938 conveyance to Western Ground Rents (Llandough) |
(b) Inconsistencies and gaps
None found in the correspondence on file.
(c) Quarantined-name links
Records on the quarantine register (Kissed Frogs) that sit in, or came from, this institution’s holdings. None is treated as settled.
- KF-09 · Bute rental account headings — quarantined: may be a mislabelled Great House Farm (Llandough/Leckwith) record until a physical check.
- KF-20 · EV-0236 — quarantined: may be a mislabelled Great House Farm (Llandough/Leckwith) record until a physical check.
- KF-36 · Evening Express 20, 28, 29, 31 Mar 1905; Western Mail 21, 23 Mar 1905 — quarantined: may be a mislabelled Great House Farm (Llandough/Leckwith) record until a physical check.
- KF-37 · Evening Express 11 Jan 1908; Barry Dock News 17 Jan 1908 — quarantined: may be a mislabelled Great House Farm (Llandough/Leckwith) record until a physical check.
- KF-44 · Title WA735527, charges register entry 1 — quarantined: may be a mislabelled Great House Farm (Llandough/Leckwith) record until a physical check.
- KF-48 · EV-0211 ( Glamorgan Archives DB/E/1 plan 19) — quarantined: may be a mislabelled Great House Farm (Llandough/Leckwith) record until a physical check.
(d) Duty and liability — our reading
Liability indicators (our reading): none
- Duty
- No general statutory duty to disclose; UK GDPR Art. 15 for personal data it holds; duties in contract, conveyancing practice or professional rules where it was a party, agent or adviser; once on notice of a possible claim, an expectation to preserve relevant documents.
- Indicators the duty was not met
- none found in the correspondence on file.
- Evidence still needed to confirm
- the institution’s retention schedule and disposal record for the series in question; the catalogue or file list it searched; the original items on the quarantine register; any internal review or complaint outcome.
- Likely extent of exposure if confirmed
- Depends on its role in a transaction: where it was a party or adviser to a dealing in the land, exposure follows that role; otherwise none beyond data-protection duties.
(e) Evidence still needed
- View any deposited papers (company or estate records) at the archive that holds them. for paid visit list
- View the original of KF-09 (Bute rental account headings) and check the place, parties and plan against Great House Farm, Llandough/Leckwith. for paid visit list
- View the original of KF-20 (EV-0236) and check the place, parties and plan against Great House Farm, Llandough/Leckwith. for paid visit list
- View the original of KF-36 (Evening Express 20, 28, 29, 31 Mar 1905; Western Mail 21, 23 Mar 1905) and check the place, parties and plan against Great House Farm, Llandough/Leckwith. for paid visit list
- View the original of KF-37 (Evening Express 11 Jan 1908; Barry Dock News 17 Jan 1908) and check the place, parties and plan against Great House Farm, Llandough/Leckwith. for paid visit list
- View the original of KF-44 (Title WA735527, charges register entry 1) and check the place, parties and plan against Great House Farm, Llandough/Leckwith. for paid visit list
- View the original of KF-48 (EV-0211 ( Glamorgan Archives DB/E/1 plan 19)) and check the place, parties and plan against Great House Farm, Llandough/Leckwith. for paid visit list
Versions
| 1.1.0 | 2026-11-01 | Moved to the Forensic Assessments webapp; dated “Since last assessment” section added; response status re-read. |
| 1.0.0 | 2026-10-21 | As published on the Legal Wiki. |